but this stuff isnt discussed when it comes to suju - people take anything and make it problematic for members who havent done things like kangin, shindong, leeteuk, and yesung, and then just throw it around to defend their favorites. Thanks for the reply! I wholeheartedly accept that I messed up on this and Im really sorry, because I feel like I sort of have a responsibility not to spread misinformation and thats exactly what I did. I don't think anything they have done has been malicious, however it was a product of maybe not being knowledgeable of what may be considered offensive to others. On Strong Heart Henry revealed that when he first came to Southkorea he thought his fellow members were gay and that Kim Heechul was transgender. I made an exo masterpost and since then Ive had a lot of messages from people telling me that they no longer feel that they can bias Chanyeol or Baekhyun, which is their own personal decision, and something that they chose based on information I provided. They wont know the nuances of why what they did is offensive to us and thats why we tell them. I'm not dismissing them or overlooking them, but I know that there was no ill intent in what they did and that they're doing their best. hitType: 'event', Yes, I should have included more info and specified where I wasnt knowledgable. One tweet asked, "What we feeling today -er or -a? I think this is one thing that remains somewhat undecided but considering Baekhyuns track record, I wouldnt put it past him tbh. }) They could learn about Korean values and customs online, but they'll never truly understand the severity of it because they're not from that culture where it's significant. I recently fell in love with these girls again after I took a break from kpop. reporters on a platform technologically tailored to meet the needs of the modern reader. : ) : ) Wow! eventAction: 'view' Mamamoo is not the most problematic group ever I'm a fairly new Mamamoo fan and I was hearing a lot about them being super problematic towards black people (so being black) I decided to some research to find out. Heechul put the scarf on his head as Gain was explaining why she chose to wear hers in a hijab style. To preface, I love Mamamoo (obviously haha - otherwise I wouldnt be subbed to this community, I guess! Meanwhile for girl groups it's just full of hate comments even if they did not do as many or as severe problematic things as boy groups. Discover short videos related to mamamoo being problematic on TikTok. This brings us now to the true reason for this article. From my own judgement, the members seem like good, genuine people. Coming in at last place is the debut single of NMIXX, O.O.This song now also holds the distinction of having the lowest average in the history of KSOTY. . Yes theres a chance it was scripted (something I didnt include originally but will add) but since we arent sure, I included it anyway. pg.acq.push(function() { Her confidence has grown through the years, due in part to her role models such as Beyonce and Rihanna, with Hwasa even saying in a now viral video Soon, I found myself promising this: If I dont fit into this generations standard of beauty, then I will have to become a different standard but prejudice based off looks has always been the sore button topic for her. I also included a link to it at the top of the super junior post. }); hitType: 'event', [3] If a celebrity said something homophobic 5 years ago but is now a huge activist in the lgbtq+ community, its likely that they were just ignorant and have learned since. i know you deemed your siwon thing heavily unreliable but even the fanvideo is wrong. MEAWW is an initialism for Media Entertainment Arts WorldWide. Comes with 1 group photocard and 2 random member photocards out of 8. #askhwasa pic.twitter.com/rqPYTIMaEL, And from there, the jokes just continued, "Biggie or Tupac?" There are multiple reasons but a large one being Im just not educated enough. We're celebrities too but we're human first.". I heard that this picture would drive people with OCD crazy.. When people see my profile pic on Instagram and see that I'm a black Moomoo , they always try to use it against me saying that I must not care about the black community if I still support them. Things not included arent included because they DIDNT happen, stop believing lies told by edgy K-pop stans w/o any receipts. We always seem to be so hard to celebrities, especially idols, when they fuck up yet we're never there to congratulate them once we see them grow and change. Compare this to some other idol groups with rabid fanbases, any controversy and they're ready to defend their idols to the point of issuing death threats to the critiques. pic.twitter.com/d4GXcv4AIt, As more fans attempted to clear the hashtag and ask for others to be kind and consider the mental health of idols like Hwasa, some couldn't help but laugh at the questions being asked. In this video, they wore blackface. yeah, suju has done problematic stuff and i agree, we shouldnt defend it or excuse it, its good to have that kind of discussion. The whole thing was carelessly done and not very thorough. In the age of the Internet, in the age where absolutely anything can be done online, your actions online matter. We have, arguably, a smaller fan base in a way - at least internationally - so its a little easier to see those hate thorns in-between the roses. Another thing referenced against Hwasa is the occasion she dressed up as a clown. Im not Korean and I dont live in Korea so Im not comfortable talking about Korean social norms or anything like that, but colorism and homophobia are still bad and damaging things. Like who is the next ethnicity youre going to offend? Offensive Super Junior Masterpost. It's even harder these days.. anything can be taken out of context for example, they're banning "Baby It's Cold Outside" on the radio because some people feel the lyrics suggest date rape what a load of BS. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. } problematickpop:. A lot seem to be taken out of context and exaggerated. MEAWW brings you the best content from its global team of Normal version comes with 1 random photocard out of 4. MAMAMOO's Hwasa is a cast member in the MBS reality show I live Alone (literal translation). now onto the list: *Anything with an asterisk besides it is a fan account and so may not be entirely reliable, though are usually fairly trustworthy. It has become commonplace to trash Mamamoo and Hwasa in particular, just another meme or joke to let slide. Some of the stuff I included turned out to be something I misunderstood (for example, the gifset of Siwon) and with other things, I didnt include enough information or included misinformation. my bias is varied between moonbyul and solar Hip is one of my most played songs ever You must log in or register to reply here. Yes, I should have checked the links. #1. Call me out for what? I will definitely admit that it was very sloppy and not well researched. document.querySelector("#google_image_div").addEventListener('click',function(){ There are many areas where I am still ignorant and I think I have a bit of an issue with talking over people, a bad habit I really need to break. Kim Yong-sun (Korean: , born February 21, 1991), better known by the stage name Solar (Korean: ), is a South Korean singer, songwriter and actress signed under RBW.She is the leader and main vocalist of girl group Mamamoo and its sub-unit Mamamoo+. Im aware people can be incredibly childish when it comes to offensive stuff in kpop, almost like its some game, like, there are actual people who look forward to exos next fuckup as though its not something that deeply upsets people. eventAction: 'click_image_ads' i am so so tired. kpop problematic carrd! i love exo. Press J to jump to the feed. The media and antis take things and blow it way out of proportion. People @Pr0blematicIdol follows or mentioned can reply Problematic Idols @Pr0blematicIdol Jan 3, 2021 Replying to @Pr0blematicIdol Yes. As Ive said before, Im not a muslim, and I was just going off of what Id seen other muslim bloggers say. ga('ads.send', { Another thing is my mental health. 4) I included the hijab thing for Heechul because I saw muslim fans point it out and say that it made them uncomfortable. Thank you~). I really dislike fat girls. Watch popular content from the following creators: natalie(@chuusvideogame), matching pfp with @asapminho(@ryyujinnn), Malaiya<3 (@soulspotato__), donnie<3(@twicesring), number one heejin stan(@realchaeyoungpark) . I dont make these lists with the intent of ruining the idols image or spreading misinformation (which by the way, if I do again, please call me out on it because otherwise I have no other way of knowing). Mamamoo isn't even the first K-Pop group or artist to don blackface in 2012, Big Bang's G-Dragon (who have been called the "biggest band in Asia") posted a horrific photo that many believed was. They received their first music show win in 2016 with Youre The Best and have since gone on to win dozens more, ending 2019 with a combined total of 41 music show wins, making them one of the most highest winning girl groups in history. Goodnight. So for antis to use that insecurity and exploit it daily, calling her everything from E.T. to a 'smelly homeless person' to having the figure of a brick, says everything about themselves and nothing about her. A subreddit for the four member kpop group, MAMAMOO! This page was loaded Sep 23rd 2021, 9:34 pm GMT. This has taken me quite a while to write because its about 3 am and Im trying not to come across as rude or self-righteous, which I something I often do unintentionally, and Im really sorry its so long when you probably didnt even want a response in the first place. Im not trying to run away from anything, if you have issues with any of the things I say or do (because I am privileged in certain aspects) please dont feel afraid to bring them up! Please feel free to contact me if you think Im missing anything! Solar Moonbyul Wheein Hwasa Results are only viewable after voting. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. If other fandoms are able to trend Mamamoo/Hwasa hate comments, it will distract from the messes that other fandoms are currently dealing with. ga('create', 'UA-67136960-15', 'auto', 'ads'); window.adsContainer = {"positionAfterTitle":{"code":"Article_Desktop_300x250_Middle5_Rel_Newrev","isOrganicUserAd":true,"max_width":336,"max_height":280},"position2":{"code":"Article_Desktop_300x250_After_Title_Rel_Newrev","max_width":336,"max_height":280},"position3":{"code":"Article_Desktop_300x250_Below_Next_Rel_Newrev","max_width":300,"max_height":250},"position4":{"code":"Article_Desktop_300x250_Middle_Rel_Newrev","max_width":300,"max_height":250},"position5":{"code":"Article_Desktop_300x250_Middle1_Rel_Newrev","max_width":300,"max_height":250},"position6":{"code":"Article_Desktop_300x250_Middle2_Rel_Newrev","max_width":336,"max_height":280},"position7":{"code":"Article_Desktop_300x250_Middle3_Rel_Newrev","max_width":300,"max_height":250},"position8":{"code":"Article_Desktop_300x250_Middle4_Rel_Newrev","max_width":300,"max_height":250},"position9":{"code":"Article_Desktop_300x250_Middle5_Rel_Newrev","max_width":336,"max_height":280},"position10":{"code":"Article_Desktop_300x250_Middle6_Rel_Newrev","max_width":336,"max_height":280},"position11":{"code":"Article_Desktop_300x250_Middle7_Rel_Newrev","max_width":336,"max_height":280},"position12":{"code":"Article_Desktop_300x250_Middle8_Rel_Newrev","max_width":336,"max_height":280},"position13":{"code":"Article_Desktop_300x250_Middle9_Rel_Newrev","max_width":336,"max_height":280},"position14":{"code":"Article_Desktop_300x250_Middle10_Rel_Newrev","max_width":336,"max_height":280},"position15":{"code":"Article_Desktop_300x250_Middle11_Rel_Newrev","max_width":336,"max_height":280},"position16":{"code":"Article_Desktop_300x250_Middle12_Rel_Newrev","max_width":336,"max_height":280},"positionTop":{"code":"Article_Desktop_970x250_Header_Rel","isOrganicUserAd":false,"max_width":970,"max_height":250},"positionBottom":{"code":"Article_Desktop_Sidebar_Bottom_Rel_Newrev","isOrganicUserAd":true,"max_width":300,"max_height":600},"positionBottomRight":{"code":"Article_Desktop_300x250_After_Title_Rel_Newrev","isOrganicUserAd":true,"max_width":336,"max_height":280}} The next big issue made public came when Solar dressed up as a Korean beggar from Train to Busan (2016) for their next ending concert video. 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