Independent Babergh District councillor for Ganges, Derek Davis. On his 15th Birthday he was sent, with 2000 other boys, to the notorious HMS Ganges training establishment at Shotley Point where a harsh regime held sway. At about 60 feet was the Devil's Elbow, the most dangerous and frightening part. ', and he replied that it was the first time he had a warm bed, three hot meals a day, and a roof over his head that didn't leak. The showers at Ganges were just one bare room with several shower heads, no privacy. Picture: CLAGUE ARCHITECTS, The Duke of Edinburgh visiting HMS Ganges in June 1973 Picture: ARCHANT. She had taken on the previous duties from the wooden ship H.M.S. Former recruit John Youngman said it would be "nice to see it restored to its former glory". It had been HO (Hostilities-only) traing during the war. HMS Ganges was also known as Shotley Training Establishment . HMS Ganges 2 in the harbour put all boys ashore and was then used as Naval Operations Ship, Harwich. Martin Foster, 54, of Haig Road, Uxbridge, had already admitted two charges of fraud by abuse of position. HMS Ganges was the name given to several Royal Navy ships from 1779 onwards, but in 1905 it was chosen for a new training base at Shotley Gate, near Ipswich, where about 500 boy recruits were stationed. Coronation Day of George VI. Didn't like it, there are better ways of teaching than violence, but it hardened me up and made me self disciplined. HMS GANGES AT HIGHNAM COURT, GLOUCESTERSHIRE, 1940 - 1942. This site uses cookies. document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. To get out of the showers we had to stand before our instructor legs apart arms raised for inspection. He went on to be an SD subby. At 14 he ran away to join the Royal Navy and signed on for 12 years. Nevertheless, as bad and as cruel as I have describe Ganges, I remain proud to call myself a Ganges Boy. For spite I think, because it wasn't compulsory. Crowds of boys from HMS Ganges would visit Ipswich when they were given a day off from the harsh naval discipline at Shotley. Ronald Carr. 1907. It was at Shotley Point that the wooden ship HMS Ganges was berthed from 1899, and used as a cadet training ship for the Royal Navy. Were you at HMS Ganges? Two other ratings are recorded as 'drowning' whilst on the books of HMS Ganges and both were in 1944. The culprit was brought before the Commanders table, the punishment was awarded as six or twelve cuts. The BBC is not responsible for the content of external sites. There's something to be said for finding how finding out how good you are at living with other people, and finding respect for yourself. Picture: SARAH LUCY BROWN (Image: Archant). A Gannett Company. As a subscriber, you are shown 80% less display advertising when reading our articles. Enter your email address to subscribe to this blog and receive notifications of new posts by email. Photos showing the rusting mast at the former site of HMS Ganges at Shotley peninsula have been released on social media, prompting concerns that the 142ft high structure is not being properly. The noise was excruciating. The only thing I can remember of that awesome night, apart from collecting a kit bag and filling it to capacity with kit, was sobbing myself to sleep and that I ate the biggest meal I'd ever eaten in my entire 15 years of life. inaccuracy or intrusion, then please The BBC is not responsible for the content of external sites. Old men on the HMS Ganges Facebook page and it helps keep alive my time spent there. yes I was there in 92 .Essex, Nolfolk , Herts Suffolk and Cambs police all used it. His early life was hard by any standards. The Royal Naval Training Establishment Shotley (known within the Royal Navy as HMS Ganges) was established in southern Suffolk in 1905. There was also a degree of sexual abuse going on at Ganges, but we boys were too scared to ever complain or report such incidents. (LogOut/ Most boys just wanted to complete their year and go to sea. Martin Foster was treasurer for veterans who served at HMS Ganges training base in Sufffolk. Researched and compiled by A. S. Grimmer (Solent Division) who sadly crossed the bar 6th January 2007. His fellow recruit, Phil Bridge, said it was "a sad day, because it means a lot to us", but he was looking forward to a restored mast being returned. Name Hetzner Online GmbH - Contact Role. HP10 9TY. This site is part of Newsquest's audited local newspaper network. HMS Ganges. http://www.28dayslater.co.uk/hms-ganges-swimming-pool-shotley-may-2015.t96792, Anniversary Toast - HMS RALEIGH 25th Oct 2009, Telegraph: "Captain Peter Grindal Obituary", Future Ford vehicles could repossess themselves, 10 myths told by Covid 'experts' now debunked. She remained in service at RNTE Shotley until October 1976. "Boys came into Ganges at age 15 and went into the navy as men at 16. The pipe (whistle) was used aboard ship for passing orders and instructions. contact the editor here. A Gannett Company. I had already taught myself to swim. A history of the Royal Navy Training Establishment HMS Ganges. Recruits used to climb the 143ft (44m)-high mast in formation, with the "button boy" standing on a small, circular platform at the very top, hands-free, but with his legs resting against a metal supporting bar. He deserted on numerous occasions and willfully disobeyed orders . Was anything in this navy free from fear? . He was sitting on a stool and told me to stand in front of him and begin. It was easy to spot those who had been here the longest. Click here to remove banner ads from this forum. Its really difficult to give a definitive time scale but once things get going I would imagine that progress will be very visible whereas a lot of the work going on over the past two or three years hasnt necessarily been seen by the public.. Ganges will for ever be the legacy of every young boy who passed through those distant gates to emerge as a sailor and a man. Review of a book of anecdotes about legendary UK boys' naval establishment HMS Ganges, which at any one time housed as many as 2,000 trainee sailors in their middle teens. HMS Ganges 'He had the misfortune to be placed under the care of two particularly brutal and drunken instructors whose continual bullying and abuse proved too much for this emerging free spirit ' His early life was hard by any standards. Rather than do the two as a pongo I signed on the dotted line for a dozen , best thing I ever did and I regret not staying in for the full time . Should one of letters be a millimetre out, you found the lot on the deck when you returned to the mess. This was the job of the button boy at HMS Ganges who had to shin up the last fifteen feet or so to climb on the button during ceremonial parades. Joined Ganges Feb '61..went through the same as everyone else. 2023 BBC. It was a facade hiding unknown treasures unknown tricks for us to perform, the first of which was to mark our kit with our names. JavaScript is disabled. Read about our approach to external linking. St George IOM Boys training 3/5/45 Christmas leave 45 took all kit and returned to Ipswich station, then by the ubiquitous 3 ton Bedford to Shotley where we reopened HMS Ganges as a boys establishment. He was an Electricians Mate Class 1 and served in, 12/03/35-09/01/36 HMS Ganges. Offenders, known in the Navy as "defaulters", were mustered every morning and went before the Captain for a formal hearing, where they could be "awarded" up to 12 "cuts" -- very hard strokes of Read about our approach to external linking. Through the year the training was intense, probably a good thing, it gave us little time to regret joining the navy. A planning application for the site was submitted and outline permission was granted in 2015. Maybe we were unlucky with Instructors as one was Court Marshalled, discharged and sent to prison for so called abuse. BBC Blue Peter presenter John Noakes attempted to climb to the top of the mast. Each of us was required to construct a printing block using letters carved in wood. Heard so much about HMS Ganges though and it sounded very good for developing 'real sailors ' but as much as I hate to admit it I suspect it would have been too much for me . The BBC is not responsible for the content of external sites. STANDING on a wooden disc about a foot in diameter, and saluting, does not sound too much of a challenge, unless it is 143feet above the ground and you only have a lightning conductor to grip between your knees. they said. Contents 1 Foundation and early history 1.1 Allegations of abuse 2 Ganges at Harwich 3 Ganges at Shotley 3.1 1906 changes 3.2 Later developments 3.3 First World War 3.4 Post war developments 3.5 Ganges in the Second World War 3.6 Postwar and closure 4 References 5 External links On October 28 the White Ensign was lowered for the last time and the ships figurehead was transferred to Royal Hospital School, Holbrook. HMS Ganges moved moorings from Harwich to Shotley. Real posh supercilious bastard. Yes indeed, they were the best of times and the worst of times. HMS Ganges was a "stone frigate" or land-based institution for the Royal Navy, and between 1905 and 1976 was one of the key training bases used to prepare sailors to defend Great Britain. It. As Rudyard Kipping wrote in his famous poem IF the you will be a man my son. Data returned from the Piano 'meterActive/meterExpired' callback event. This gallery has been set up as a home for images that have not so far been added to the Museums Official Website https://www.hmsgangesmuseum.com/ Even by naval training standards life there was controlled by a very strict regime. Shotly Jan 7 1967 , 4 weeks in the annex, 11months in the main establishment,left the RN after 26 years, as C.C.MEA(P) and you could tell Ganges trained men a mile off, Regrets not a bit.Sorry for the lad in my class that drank a pint of pussers disinfectant (The black stuff that turned white when you added water) I believe he got his Discharge. To get to the platform you would climb out over the Devil's Elbow, legs dangling in the air, only your grip keeping you from certain death. The HMS Ganges Museum previously said restorers would remove the wooden part of the mast for refurbishment off site and they would then check the condition of the steel lower mast. contact the editor here. Shotley Marina, Shotley Gate, Ipswich, IP9 1QJ. inaccuracy or intrusion, then please The HMS Ganges site was initially opened in 1904 acted as a boys training facility for the Royal Navy. He was the officer that tested us when we endeavoured to qualify with a bosuns pipe. Editors' Code of Practice. Saw your message. HMS Ganges (1821) This page summarises records created by this Organisation The summary includes a brief description of the collection (s) (usually including the covering dates of the. Allegations of Abuse. I knew that once the weather was respectable, when it was no longer dangerous, my skinny little skeleton would be transported, step by trembling step, up that perilous rigging. First Royal Navy ship to visit Eire, post independence? She remained in service at RNTE Shotley until October 1976. She was based alternately in Falmouth, Harwich (from 1899) and Shotley (from 1905). When the Gunnery Instructor was finally satisfied, you put the lot back in your locker as before. I was so fearful of that oncoming event I was becoming a nervous wreck, each night reading the next day's daily orders, wondering if tomorrow would be the day I crapped my pants in public. By creating an account you agree to us emailing you with newsletters and discounts, which you can switch off in your account at any time. HMS GANGES MUSEUM. One person found this helpful. He was quite good too. The number of air raids at Shotley began to increase dramatically and its ratings soon had to go to the air . The 142-foot high (43 m) mast was erected in 1907. Every new recruit was required to climb it, not to the very top but to the half moon, about thirty-feet from the top. "We're hoping that we can get some of the money back from him, but we don't know if that's going to be possible.". The mast was erected in 1907 for boy entrant training purposes using the lower foremast (steel) from HMS Cordelia (1881) with other sections from the mizzen mast of HMS Agincourt (1865). Reaching high into the sunlit sky stood the mast; its yardarms spread wide like a giant crucifix. Did my intro to Pusser at HMS Raleigh in ' 52 . I knew a gentleman who said when he was at Ganges in 1947 he had his first taste of hot food. "They had a hard life, but they were fed and looked after. I arrived at Ganges in the late afternoon on March 15th 1955, along with roughly a hundred other fifteen year old boys. I just got on with it. He had the misfortune to be placed under the care of two particularly brutal and drunken instructors whose continual bullying and abuse proved too much for this emerging free spirit . The test consisted of two lengths of the pool while wearing a boiler suit, then floating for five minutes. Padre Weekes was always good for a fag and Jim Conroy (PTI) taught me to yodel. For breakfast porridge was on offer, that salt-coated gruel I'd been forced to eat every morning of my schoolboy days. Speaking about the current state of the site, Mr Jones said: "All of the messes have been demolished, as have the laundry and the generators. (LogOut/ ", HMS Ganges as a warship (Image: HMS Ganges Museum). Yes, I got it wrong! I would like to see the mast and museum moved to the safety of HMS Raleigh though to ensure its upkeep and maintenance. H.M.S. Mr Jones said: "There is a lot of truth to the statement that you entered as a boy, but left as a man. Editors' Code of Practice. 2023 BBC. Hetzner Online GmbH, Industriestrasse 25, D-91710 Gunzenhausen, Germany +49 9831 505-0 [email protected]. Sadists most of them and that's from a 15 year old who was in a council care home before he joined, streetwise to fcuk and kept my head down. These adverts enable local businesses to get in front of their target audience the local community. Dave Walton RN retired. July 5 The old HMS Ganges sails out of Harwich Harbour. Looking pretty in candy-striped pyjama bottoms and naked chests, we were ordered across the parade ground, through the snow and ice, to the 'heads', that grown-up potty land, which had neither doors nor partitions around the bowls for privacy, to partake in our morning ablutions, a most embarrassing experience. the reason i remember the date is that it was my 15th birthday, We got shipped out to Suez in October 1956 cutting short our training by a couple of months. Every letter, every strip of tape had to be in a perfect line. 1927. These were all regular happenings at Ganges. 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But this was Ganges, we never got away with anything. MT2 Served from 1965 - 2021 Served in HMS Ganges. She was established as a boys' training establishment in 1865, and was based aboard a number of hulks before moving ashore. Standing at 143ft, the mast is made up of three main parts; the main 75ft mast came from HMS Cordelia, a steam corvette built in Portsmouth, the top mast of 47.5 ft wooden ruffle box from HMS Agincourt, which was renamed HMS Boscawen, and then Ganges II. Ken Smith, who now lives in Brighton, sent me memories of arriving at HMS Ganges in the severe winter of 1963 and his fear of the dreaded mast. Harry and Meghan told to 'vacate' Frogmore Cottage, Explosive found in check-in luggage at US airport, Fungus case forces Jack Daniels to halt construction, Rare Jurassic-era bug found at Arkansas Walmart, China and Belarus call for peace in Ukraine. After sewing on a tag and sporting a proud smile as I offered it up for inspection to that gorilla-of-gunner, I was sent scurrying away, ears ringing from slaps and vehement words, asking myself, 'How the hell did I mange to sew the tag on upside-down?'. At 14 he ran away to join the Royal Navy and 'signed on' for 12 years. The inquiry was carried out by Hampshire Police after debit card transactions of 4,200 and cash machine withdrawals totalling 74,000 were made from the association's bank accounts between August 2010 and June 2012. Several tales about bullying and the harsh regime generally, not so much about the famous and frequent official canings. HMS Ganges was a training ship and later stone frigate of the Royal Navy. He was fondling my right cheek as I tried to concentrate on pipping. She was based alternately in Falmouth, Harwich and Shotley . I told him "I don't give a flying feck!" I took a bowl and ate the lot. Ganges Tales of the T.R.O.G.s Paperback - 22 Nov. 1995 by John Douglas (Author), John Wheatley (Illustrator) 6 ratings Paperback 12.00 8 Used from 8.90 H.M.S. The overall height is 143 feet 10 inches, with the button being 11 inches diameter and 3 inches thick. She was based alternately in Falmouth, Harwich (from 1899) and Shotley (from 1905). Attempts have been made to contact developers Haylink Ltd but have been unsucessfull. [1] They looked like what we didn't, sailors. later times). Thanks again, D. R. WALTON the only O.E.M. in the RN with the nickname Doc. Welcome Guest. HMS GANGES 6th May 2009 - YouTube. When I say there was sexual abuse Im speaking from personal experience. Statistics for the 1930s indicate some 200 official canings per year in HMS Ganges alone, an average of four per week. HMS Ganges organisation of meals - covering the galley in the Long Covered Way/messdeck dining, and the introduction of the CMG block /communal dining - dated 1952. c. Punishment of Juniors (U) at HMS Ganges dated 1970. d. Restrictions on the caning of boys as a punishment dated 1929-1931. Im quite sure few if any boys receiving cuts ever thought to run away again. Newsquest Media Group Ltd, Loudwater Mill, Station Road, High Wycombe, Buckinghamshire. CLICK ABOVE TO OPEN GALLERY. 1903. If not, you would do it repeatedly, until you dropped dead if necessary. HMS Ganges closed on June 6. Picture: CLAGUE ARCHITECTS, Independent Babergh District councillor for Ganges, Derek Davis. HMS Ganges being broken up after training was transferred to the land base at Shotley (Image: HMS Ganges Museum). In attendance was a senior officer, medical officer and the master at arms. I recall watching a boy, who had been thrown in the deep end of the swimming pool, struggling in the water while a sadistic instructor smiled, saying, 'Look what happens if you can't bloody well swim?' and for those of you who served at ganges and who have't joined the association go on..nothing to lose and you'll find a lot of old shipmates there!! Sad to see such an establishment close as it was so full of history and meant so much to so many. Sad to see such an establishment close as it was so full of history and meant so much to so many. HMS Ganges was the name given to several Royal Navy ships from 1779 onwards, but in 1905 it was chosen for a new training base at Shotley Gate, near Ipswich, where about 500 boy recruits were. If you have a complaint about the editorial content which relates to 1905 - 1976 The site was closed in 1976 and was used as a maaried quarter estate by the RAF. After such a long time I think it will be a welcome relief for a lot of people. Data returned from the Piano 'meterActive/meterExpired' callback event. Now i know why! It may not display this or other websites correctly. CMEM (M) Served from 1972 - 1987 Served in HMS Ganges. The association said it had about 3,000 members and at the time of the offences its income from membership fees was about 30,000 a year. HMS Ganges Museum is dedicated to the 160,000 boys who went through the gates as boys and marched out as men, from its inception as a Royal Navy Training Establishment in 1905 to its closure in 1976. Today lots of those instructors (JIs and Badgeboys included) would be in front of the beak for various abuses, harassment and bullying. She remained in service at RNTE Shotley until October 1976. She was the last wooden wall ship to be a flagship, and the last to sail around cape horn unassisted. HP10 9TY. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Indeed, I have never met a shipmate would ever claim otherwise. Each evening after we had cleaned the mess, we took everything out of the locker rolled each item into a nine-inch sausage, tied white tape around both ends, and then placed every item on a blanket. This site is part of Newsquest's audited local newspaper network. Ganges Tales of the T.R.O.G.s Print length 264 pages Language English Publisher Second City Publishers, Penmarth, Cornwall Publication date 22 Nov. 1995 ISBN-10 090681605X ISBN-13 While I probably believed the stories, I was still determined to quality for my chain. . You are using an out of date browser. Who would have believed us, this was 1955 words like pedophile and sexual abuse were unheard of. My instructors were Nobby Clarke and Ted Roe. Posted on February 5, 2019 by irishroverpei. Change), You are commenting using your Facebook account. CEM1 Served from 1972 - 1978 Served in HMS Ganges. This was the job of the button boy at HMS Ganges who had to shin up the last fifteen feet or so to climb on the button during ceremonial parades. HMS Ganges as a training ship in the 1900s, HMS Ganges being broken up after training was transferred to the land base at Shotley, The boys climbed the mast whenever the base received high-status visitors, and as part of their training, The sailors in training doing exercises outside the gym, The honours board from the HMS Ganges, showing the victories of all the Royal Navy ships bearing the name. [1] Not to the required half-moon, but to the first platform, where, when authoritative eyes were averted, I dashed to the other side and climbed back down.. He had the misfortune to be placed under the care of two particularly brutal and drunken instructors whose continual bullying and abuse proved too much for this emerging free spirit, . Other things we had to do included, clean a toilet with a toothbrush, polish a hundred square feet of block-wood flooring with a boot brush every night before going to bed, paint the inside of a dustbin white before putting your rubbish into it. A question of Religion?Maybe MaybeNot???? Ganges training establishment. There was a seamanship officer at the boat sheds. 1905 to 1976 saw 150,000 recruits pass through HMS Ganges. The BBC is not responsible for the content of external sites. John Garrett. After eating I dashed down to the boat sheds to report for my test. Like lots of other boys I ran away from home when I was 14 yrs old and joined the Royal Navy as a Boy Seaman 2nd class. While I was going through the various calls I felt his hand slipping up the back of my shorts. The greatest fear was of messing up, this meant the whole class was punished. Free (donations towards running costs are welcome) Sailors' uniforms were a familiar sight in our area until HMS Ganges closed in June 1976. So as I have said already, we kept our heads down aiming for that final day when wed be drafted to a ship. A Gannett Company. The white letters would then be transformed, by our nimble fingers, into red with silk thread using the chain stitch. Read about our approach to external linking. Registered in England & Wales | 01676637 |. Frederick "Ben" Rodgers author of "Lily & Me", "The Royal Navy & Me" and collector of Rover automobiles, Review from Newfoundland CraigChurchill. At the tip of the Shotley peninsular sits a cluster of abandoned buildings that were once home to hundreds of young lads right at the start of their lives at sea. However, for most of us boys, qualifying meant we could wear the Bosuns chain with our uniform instead of a lanyard. NO FLOWERS FOR GEORDIE, HE'S NOT HERE TODAYTHE SEA HAS CLAIMED MY GEORDIE BOYPLEASE NO FLOWERS TODAYFIFTEEN YEARS OF LEARNING, HE'LL NOT GO DOWN THE MINESO WE TOOK HIM NEAR TO IPSWICH TOWNFAR FROM THE SEAMS OF THE TYNEIN A PLACE THEY STILL CALL 'GANGES' WITH TWO THOUSAND OTHER BOYSHE LEARNED TO SPLICE AND SAIL A BOATTALL ORDERS WERE HIS TOYSTHE 'BULLY BOYS' CAME NIGHTLY, DID THINGS A BOY COUNDN'T TELLBUT THEY MADE HIM WRITE IN HIS LETTERS HOME MAMMA YOU'R BOY'S DOIN WELLTHEN NEWS CAME OF SOME FIGHTING IN A FAR OFF DISTANT LANDWE NEED THOSE BOYS THUS SPAKE FOUR RINGSIN OUR BIG SHIPS THEY CAN RIDEIT'S WRITTEN ON HIS PAPERS, TWAS NOT THE DEED OF A MAN BUT A WAVE THAT TOOK MY GEORDIE BOYFIVE MILES OFF PLYMOUTH SOUNDSO NO FLOWERS FOR GEORDIE HE'S NOT HERE TODAY THE SEA HAS CLAIMED MY GEORDIE BOYPLEASE NO FLOWERS TODAY. Peter Ohara. Heard so much about HMS Ganges though and it sounded very good for developing 'real sailors ' but as much as I hate to admit it I suspect it would have been too much for me . For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. This website and associated newspapers adhere to the Independent Press Standards Organisation's Outbreak of World War One. The mast has been a local landmark since it was. Fill in your details below or click an icon to log in: You are commenting using your WordPress.com account. HMS Ganges was the name given to several Royal Navy ships since from 1779, but in 1905 it was chosen as title for a new training base at Shotley Gate, near Ipswich where about 500 boy recruits were stationed. Newsquest Media Group Ltd, Loudwater Mill, Station Road, High Wycombe, Buckinghamshire. The facility remained there until its closure in June 1976, If you are dissatisfied with the response provided you can Life on the ship was extremely hard, with a memorial in Mylor, Cornwall, recording the names of 53 people who died while training on it between 1866 and 1899. . The Royal Navy training mast in Shotley Gate, pictured in 1936, was erected in 1907, A photograph of the base taken sometime in the 1950s (left), with recruits on the mast in 1937, with one recruit just about visible near the very top, John Youngman said his training at the site stood him in good stead for the rest of his life, Warning: Third party content may contain adverts, A pupil band from The Royal Hospital School performed at the event, It is expected to take at least a year to restore the mast at the tip of the Shotley peninsula, across the water from Felixstowe and Harwich. It was hard, often . This was where the roped rigging jutted out some ten feet - above it, the platform. HMS Ganges as a training ship in the 1900s (Image: HMS Ganges Museum). CHARGE CHIEF PETTY OFFICER (WEA) Served from 1974 - 1997 Served in HMS Ganges. She was based alternately in Falmouth, Harwich (from 1899) and Shotley (from 1905). 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